McLoughlin at the Lords

Over recent months, the House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee has been conducting an inquiry into HS2. On 9th December, it was the turn of the DfT and HS2 Ltd to give evidence.

Lord Hollick started the meeting pointing out that the business case for HS2 relies on putting cash values onto the time passengers would save by going faster, and that the numbers involved might not be robust as they were derived from a survey of car users conducted in 1994. McLoughlin responded that the numbers were revised in 2013 and bizarrely claimed they now reflect the fact that passengers do work on trains, which seems at odds with reality, as that would potentially see a neutral or even negative value put on time savings.

In a move which mirrored exactly what has happened overall with HS2, as soon as the business case was put under scrutiny, Mc Loughlin quickly tried to move the justification away from the business case to capacity, but Lord Hollick wasn’t having it. Part of the problem for McLoughlin had said the business case had been revised following work from the Institute for Transport Studies, which gave Hollick the opportunity to say the ITS had in their evidence to the committee said they had problems with the ‘value of time’ calculation. This had been a point made by Stop HS2 in an earlier evidence session, that the HS2 Ltd had taken the ITS study and cherry-picked the bits that suited whilst re-interpreting some of the definitions, such as how long ‘long-distance’ is.

There were further hits at the business case from former chancellor Lord Lawson, mainly on the point that the studies have supposedly shown that people are willing to pay more to travel faster, but the entire business case is based on the idea that people would not have to pay more than the current fare structure to travel on HS2.

On capacity, McLoughlin, David Prout of the DfT and Lord Deighton of the HS2 task force had a hard time trying to justify the capacity argument once they had accepted that in peak hours trains out of Euston were 50-60% full, with Lord Hollick drawing a line under the discussions when he admitted that even his committee had not been allowed to see the actual passenger figures, because of ‘commercial confidentiality’.

The official map of high speed rail lines in Europe, which Patrick McLoughlin keeps pretending does not exist.

The official map of high speed rail lines in Europe, which Patrick McLoughlin keeps pretending does not exist.

Sadly, McLoughlin did the whole thing yet again where he said that you can’t get a high speed train from London to Birmingham or London to Leeds, when as Transport Secretary, he knows this simply is not the case.

McLoughlin again tried to claim that freeing up capacity does not mean cutting services. Initially he said HS2 would massively free up capacity for more both passenger services and freight. But when he was asked about the “Coventries and Rugbies of this world” keeping services, he said “This is an addition to services, it’s not a minus. Coventry is 11 miles from Birmingham International, so there will be connectivity. The areas Lord Monks talks about will have more opportunities because there will be more capacity” McLoughlin then went on to talk about Stoke, say the proposed Crewe station isn’t that far away from the A500.

2 comments to “McLoughlin at the Lords”
  1. What else would you expect from McLoughlin, who forgets that he our employee? Giving incorrect information to the House of Lords should be an offence.
    He, Cameron & Osborne should remember that it is hard-earned taxpayers’ money of which they are contemplating wasting even more, no wonder they are held in such deep contempt.
    HS2 has never been looked at impartially, 40% of the line to Birmingham has yet to be surveyed.

  2. With the new and changing factors emerging in 2014 through this House of Lords inquiry can several MPs and Lords derive a Bill to replan a section or sections of Phase1 HS2 please.

    There are gaps in the current Phase1 which do not result in the better value for money and which do not convince people except the several HS2 functionaires who understand how poor the plan is but do not have the will to make changes.

    DFT both Ministers and Civil Servants have lost the persuasive arguments and with other insiders know the weaknesses in their plans and proposals but have not the will power to make the changes people cannot not achieve through the petitioning on the Hybrid Bill. Where are the courageous MPs and Lords to launch the Bill and Standing Committee to make the changes needed to HS2 please.

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