Delays of the HS2 line

Anyone wondering what was happening with the Phase 2 announcement, might have looked for clarity with one of the Transport questions asked by David Mowat, MP for Warrington South, in Parliament yesterday: “What progress the Government have made on finalising the route for phase two High Speed 2”.

The answer did not provide anything new: Robert Goodwill said the government have “committed to setting out the Government’s plan for the HS2 phase two route in an update to the House before the end of this year.”

Of course, they’ve made plans for announcements before: the phase 2 route itself was supposed to have been announced last year.

Out of date HS2 timeline, showing missed dates

Out of date HS2 timeline, showing missed dates

However in a follow-up question Maggie Throup (Erewash) asked Goodwill to meet her and a delegation from Erewash Borough Council to discuss mitigation for HS2 on local residents and businesses, especially in and around Long Eaton. Goodwill emphasised that the route itself has not been finalised: its not just the timing of any announcements.

Rumours are that HS2 phase from Fradley to Crewe (so called Phase 2a) will be announced during the Chancellors forthcoming Autumn Statement, due on 25th November.

Further rumours are that phase 2 to Manchester (Phase2) will NOT be announced until late 2016. And with confirmation from Goodwill yesterday that the eastern side is not finalised, its clear that there are big problems with the route.

It’s known that there are geotechnical problems of getting it across the Cheshire Salt Plain (see more here and here) and similar problems across the former coal mining areas on the eastern leg of Phase 2.

However, there are also the issues of the costs: the Chancellor is apparently going to announce £100 billion investments in the autumn statement. But unless you stick with the Government’s figure for HS2 of £50billion (in 2011 figures), and ignore such things as the current estimate of the Great Western Railway electrification (now £2.8billion) being three times originally planned, HS2 alone would easily swallow up the majority of that budget.

Another factor is the locating of station sites, which may affect the political support from different councils in the areas.

All in all, once you get past the headlines HS2 Phase 2 is one big headache for the Government

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3 comments on “Delays of the HS2 line
  1. Support the House of Lords to scrutinise the infrastructure needs not Adonis to make more mistakes: Avoiding the transport issues with the wrong call of HS2 MPs fail to address the nations real daily bottlenecks

    Adonis and Hoon got the UK transport projects wrong with HS2. Ask the thousands stuck in motorway accident areas and in roadworks and on stations on Friday night.

    The House of Lords are more relevant to scrutinise the UKs desparate situations than the MPs. MPs are not handling the real issues such as the loss of community charge income with many East European house sharing rife in towns and sub-urbane areas adding to car numbers daily increasing as the growth in their numbers and displacement of many British people from jobs abounds.

    Osborne and Cameron have lost control on the ground on transport, immigration, community charge payment avoidance. The UK is no long being administered within it means. Time for the House of Lords to have more powers not less.

  2. The politicians waffle and clap trap use of words with no real meaing such as power houses can not hide the facts that in transport terms HS2 is of little real relevance to the commuteres or businesses. The greatest mistaken waste of money and futile project of all times.

  3. Not to mention the appalling effect of property blight on people’s lives.Just when are MPs going to insist that the people who pay them are treated fairly and not regarded as moaning irritants

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